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Muad 'dib
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Posted - 2013.04.29 09:39:00 -
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Milton Middleson wrote:
Why should kills directly affect a war?
seriously?
Ships in space blow each other up - its what the entire game revolves around.
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Muad 'dib
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Posted - 2013.04.29 12:21:00 -
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Well the only thing that happens when a FW player kills another on the opposite side, if they get a laughably tiny amount of LP - yet if it was money they were after why not plex instead.
farmers only want isk, but effect the systems the people who live in (or would like to) the area for both isk and pvp or just pvp.
Farmers dont have 'stuff' to move around, they dont need a base and they dont care if a system is dockable or not, they just go to the next one along - when and if they die they scurry back off to high sec to grab another. This is something people who play fw for more than the money have to deal with and if largly out of their hands.
This is why we are seeing people in non fw system who WANT to be able to participate in all aspects of fw but cant.
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Muad 'dib
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Posted - 2013.04.29 15:23:00 -
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ALUCARD 1208 wrote:Veshta Yoshida wrote:and with both warzones having flipped several times during that time the argument that "not going people's way.." is made rather dead.
. ok so rewind a few months amarr pushed to t4 so did caldaris and all was rosey amarr were chestbeating on forums there battleships were flavor of the month with ppl and the battle crys was out, fweddit was announcing glitter fleets were gunna take over and minnies prepare there holes .. (even you was happy im not trolling thru that threadnaught but it was there) you was earning u was happy. caldaris were also crowing that daddy evoke had joined and now gallentes were gunna get beat back. (all smiles here and happy) Game at this point working as intended................... now the sides have flipped bk its BROKEN again and its always a caldari or amarr that posts these threads ... So argument not dead
When amarr pushed t4 that was only t4, how long did they hold the highest level they had in total?
They pushed it to see if it COULD be done and to get some isk back for the LP they had. Minms reminded at a comfortable lvl and quickly regained control to a point thats it worse than it was before for the amarr.
The systems always been broken and the same amarr that whined BEFORE inferno, whined while inferno and are still whining.
Got to admire that much faith a feature to one day be balanced correctly
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Posted - 2013.04.29 18:02:00 -
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Xolve wrote:Muad 'dib wrote:The systems always been broken and the same amarr that whined BEFORE inferno, whined while inferno and are still whining. If only that put as much effort into the warzone as they did badposting on the forums...
how shamed we feel to try and fix somthing we love.
lets not bother posting anything about eve ever and just hope they guess right (cus that worked so great in the past).
im whining, you are the one bad posting irrelevant one liners
besides real answer: i cant play eve at work so i post to help the game i love when i get home to play it.
fw was plenty of fun before inferno, instead of being enhanced with new features and mechanics, its got worse - but thats okay because the easymode farm alts are happy.
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Muad 'dib
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Posted - 2013.04.29 18:08:00 -
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ALUCARD 1208 wrote:Muad 'dib wrote:
They pushed it to see if it COULD be done and to get some isk back for the LP they had. Minms reminded at a comfortable lvl and quickly regained control to a point thats it worse than it was before for the amarr.
The systems always been broken and the same amarr that whined BEFORE inferno, whined while inferno and are still whining.
So they proved it could be done then the tide can be turned with co-operation, hardwork + TZ coverage, Feature working as intended
yes with the man power it can, for the sake of a test. yes its possible, but what are you going to do, convince everyone in fw to change a side every few months to make it even? theres only so many that care in the first place and they tend ot stick to their sides.
you cant sustain the man power because of:
certian fw factions have better locations and adjacent systems
certain fw factions have more or less systems
FW prices dispite a full year basicly on one side, the other is still not close to being as profitable
new players are swayed by ease: locking them out of half the map or more makes joining the losing side stupid
new players looking to farm will only pick the easiest side
if a side overcomes the odds and swings things their way, they are all burned out and theres no replacements
it would take nothing more at this point to give a super duper awesome must-have ship or module in the losing side only to get the farmers to change - but they wont change they will make another alt and do it while theres money in it.
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Posted - 2013.04.29 21:03:00 -
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you told me im bad for caring and look at you, you do actually care you just like to hide it by being a big meany!
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Posted - 2013.04.30 10:25:00 -
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so once you take the whole war zone you can keep it for every with 3 alts per system cloaked all day stoping more sites popping up?
grreaaaattt - dont temp the farmers, they have the altpower
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Muad 'dib
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Posted - 2013.04.30 11:53:00 -
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also can i have a tiny bit of FW standing CCP for fw kills? to go with the tiny bit of LP
I hit my top rank ages ago and i get no more boosts to my standing. Not good for corp standings if your the CEO etc.
its easy to do, so just do it (i dont care if we get nothing for newb ships and shuttle ofc)
I sure as hell loose some if i shoot the wrong guy, accidental or otherwise my standing does not move unless i do missions (which i can't do because theres no agent in available stations)
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Posted - 2013.05.01 11:02:00 -
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Veshta Yoshida wrote:Taoist Dragon wrote:...There is nothing stopping you having the FW you want. Just get out there and make it happen rather than whine on the forums about it. Seriously the mechanics aren't the issue... So the fact that income and right to dock, both immensely important for non-Titan pew, is directly tied to risk-free alt farming activity is just something that can be ignored or worked around through :effort:? Pray tell, How? Spam alts to counter the alts? Waste 80% of ones time in warp between beacons chasing stab-monkeys? Blob the snot out of an enemy?
Yeah just go an convince more people to make farm alts than there are farmers against you to join your losing side, so you can flip the systems so pvpers can pvp better by actually docking to reship/refit etc
its that easy. 
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Posted - 2013.05.01 11:34:00 -
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im not sure why fw is even in low sec anymore, since the focus is to get chars into it for the easy isk and not about pvp
they would get more alts rolled if it was high sec tbh
but oh noes? who would shoot the hubs!?
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Muad 'dib
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Posted - 2013.05.02 16:07:00 -
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Lets just pretend there are no pvpers on the farming side.
Even if the pvpers could kill all the farmers they are losing to, who is going to counter-farm for a fraction of the money they could get compared to just jumping on the bandwagon?
nah leave the counter-farm to the pvpers too? yeah sweet plan.
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